A universally convenient meat pie with history; and how to make traditional hot water crust pastry

“Now you’ll have to take what we’ve got. I’m busy today and haven’t had time for cooking. You can have a bit of homemade meat pie, or a slice or two of ham or tongue, or hard-boiled eggs and salad. Bless you, you look as pleased as Punch! I’ll put the lot on the table for you and you can help yourselves! Will that do? There’s no vegetables though. You’ll have to make do with pickled cabbage and my own pickled onions and beetroot in vinegar.”
Enid Blyton, Five on a Hike Together
This pie is known in my family as ‘the as and when’ pie. We make it every Christmas and it sees us through those lunches when you really don’t want to cook (most of them!). As Aunt Fanny does in the Famous Five, we too serve it with brined vegetables, also made ahead of time and ready to eat ‘as and when’, and chutney. For how to brine vegetables, go to the last recipe, Festive Spiced Winter Vegetable Ferment, in this post.
The brined vegetable, I understand (I have never tried this personally), keep for up to two years. Certainly, this type of meat pie keeps for a long time. I wouldn’t guarantee this for anyone else, but we have happily eaten ours up to a month post-creation – refrigerated, of course, once cut open.
In any case, although it may look like a lot of steps, in fact this pie is easy to make – take five minutes and sit down with a cup of coffee and read through the recipe, you will see what I mean.
It goes well with a real ale or a dry cider.
THE PIE IS EASY, BUT ALLOW A DAY TO MAKE IT, IT NEEDS TO BE LEFT TO SET OVERNIGHT. HOT WATER CRUST PIES DO NOT FREEZE WELL.
Why do these pies keep so long?
The secret is the absence of air, and the resilience of the pastry as a sealing agent. The air is eliminated by:
- Carefully filling the pie right to the top with liquid which sets, thanks to the gelatine
- Making a tough, dense pastry to enclose the meat
- Ensuring that the pastry is well sealed where the edges connect
History of the meat pie
People have been benefitting from the ability of these pies to remain safe to eat for centuries. Medieval (possibly even Roman) sailors have used them – for them it wasn’t just a matter of the length of time they keep, but also the fact that they don’t take up much space…. at least not as much as a live cook, and a live set of animals.
Experiment with different fillings

You can experiment with all kinds of filling. Dried fruit (apricots, dried sour cherries, dried cranberries and so on) will keep well, but prunes give a slimey texture. You can include nuts – pistachio nuts lend themselves well to this sort of pie. You can also include fresh cranberries, onions, asparagus or apples, for example, but these don’t keep as well particularly once the pie is cut open. Frances Jones-Davies suggests, “I make one with thick slices of chicken layered with well seasoned sausage meat and crab apple jelly, it is a picnic treat.”
For the meat, you can use sausage meat, bacon, ham (any leftovers from your Christmas gammon perhaps), chicken breasts. If you feel fancy, you can make a layered pie with a number of the above.
For this particular recipe you will need a 20-23 cm/8”-9” loose bottomed, non-stick cake tin.

A universally convenient meat pie with history; and how to make traditional hot water crust pastry
Serves – 8
Ingredients
- 350g/12 oz/2½ cups plain flour, plus more for rolling out
- 75g/3 oz lard, plus more for greasing
- 75g/3 oz butter
- 160 ml/⅔ cup water
- 500g/1 lb minced pork
- 75g/3 oz diced pancetta
- 100g/4 oz mild chorizo – that’s about half a standard sized sausage
- 200g/8ox dried apricots
- 1 egg
- 240ml/1 cup chicken stock – this needs to be good quality stock – either your own, or Oxo ready-to-use isn’t bad
- 2 leaves of gelatine
- 2 tsp smoked salt
- Generous grinds of both pepper (ideally Indonesian long pepper) and nutmeg
Instructions
- First make the meat filling by chopping the chorizo very finely, and then mixing it with the minced pork and pancetta.
- Chop the apricots roughly and add them.
- Add 1 tsp of salt, and grind over the pepper and nutmeg.
- To make the pastry, heat the water gently with the lard and butter, but don’t let it boil.
- Put the flour and 1 tsp of salt into a large mixing bowl.
- When the fats have melted in the water, add the lot to the flour and mix well with a wooden spoon. Cover and leave for five minutes.
- Knead the pastry with your hands until it comes together smoothly. Divide into one-third: two-thirds. Roll out the two-thirds portion on a floured board. It should be about 1½ cm/ just over ½” thick. Wrap the remaining third in cling film and then again in a tea towel. You want to stop the pastry from drying out (hence the cling film) and to keep the pastry warm (hence the tea towel) because it’s easier to work.
- Grease the cake tin and line it with the rolled out pastry using your hands. The pastry should reach the top of the tin and overhang just a little to give you something to attach the ‘lid’ to.
- Fill the pastry case with the meat filling, pressing down well to compact it.
- Preheat the oven to 180°C.
- Roll out the remaining pastry on the floured surface to make the ‘lid’ of the pie.
- Beat the egg, and brush the pastry edges overhanging the top of the cake tin with it.
- Put the ‘lid’ on, and push it down gently to get rid of any air. With a small, sharp knife, cut off any excess pastry, and make leaves etc (holly leaves and berries, for example at Christmas) to decorate. Crimp the lid to the base with your fingers, ensuring a good seal. For the best seal, and a very professional-looking pie, see ‘divot making’, below. Brush the lid with the beaten egg. Add any decorations, and brush them with beaten egg too.
- Make a small (about 1”/3 cm) cross in the middle of the lid, and slightly peel back the pastry to make a small hole.
- Put the pie in the oven for between 1-1½ hours – the pastry should be golden – not brown.
- Meanwhile, shortly before the pie needs to come out of the oven, put the gelatine leaves in a shallow bowl of cold tap water. Leave them there for about five minutes, while you gently heat the stock. Squeeze any excess water out of the gelatine and add the leaves to the warm stock. Stir to dissolve. Keep the liquid warm in the saucepan until the pie comes out of the oven.
- Then you need to pour the stock into the pie. This has to be done carefully – remember, you are eliminating the air so that the pie will keep for longer. An easy way is to put a large nozzle from a piping bag into the hole you made previously, and then fit a smallish funnel into that. Do this slowly and allow time so that the liquid can trickle into all the crevices and eliminate the air. Then ensure that the pie is filled to the top, almost overflowing, again to eliminate the air.
- Carefully close up the hole you have been using. Again, remember the pastry is providing a seal to ensure air doesn’t enter, so that seal needs to remain fully intact.
- Leave the pie in a cool place to set.

For the best seal, ‘divot’ making
In order to ensure a really strong seal where the pastry sheets meet you need to create ‘divots’. This is done by crimping the edge of the pastry with your index finger, making hollows, pushing towards the edge of the cake tin as you go around the pie, whilst at the same time pushing the pastry around the index finger with two fingers from your other hand. This has the additional advantage of making the pie look very professional and attractive.

“Any kitchen normally has a residual warmth, but this one …. Was distinctly cool. But that was her fault perhaps, for wearing no clothes…..The pie, with a knife for cutting it, was on the table, beneath a blue-and-white tea towel. Beside it was a tray with cutlery, napkin, condiments, a bottle of beer and a glass, a bottle opener…..It was a very good pie. She opened the bottle of beer and drank, if only to wash down the food. It tasted as beer had always tasted the few times she’d drunk it, like brown autumn leaves.”
Graham Swift, Mothering Sunday

“The closest living relative of the venison pasty is the game pie. There are some impressive examples raised from a hot-water crust pastry and imbued with the spirit of its noble ancestor, such as the ‘game pie decorated musically and inscribed with the words of Così Fan Tutte’ made for a Glyndebourne picnic.”
Pen Vogler, Scoff: A History of Food and Class in Britain
Music to cook to
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